Thread: UM news; Vernon denies yahoo's latest report

Very informative article!

I hope so...run this guy, Robinson, out of business. Let him go back school and learn what journalism is all about instead Miami Channel 7 news crap. Telling this guy should call Rick Sanchez and run a sleezy sensationalism news station.

I smell doo doo from the simple fact that - if you're WITH someone, why in Hades would you be calling them several times?

Originally Posted by UMFarArcher

I smell doo doo from the simple fact that - if you're WITH someone, why in Hades would you be calling them several times?

I'm sure CRob has an unnamed source who can fill us all in on the obvious fact that Allen had lost his phone at the club & Ovie was helping him look for it by calling the thing 12 times.

Hmmm. Maybe I should look into "investigative" journalisms.

Please guys, read the actual article for yourself and take the time to comprehend it instead of instantly dismissing everything in it.

The article never says that Allen was with Chickillo and Vernon in the club. The article says that Allen arranged the night out and paid for it. Phone calls between them (which is a verified fact) would make complete and total sense as far as him arranging the night out. Whether or not they can prove that aspect of it and whether or not the NCAA needs proof up to that standard is another question entirely.

If Chickillo doesn't get suspended or at least have to pay some amount of money, then we'll know it wasn't proven to be true. It's a given that Chickillo was interviewed - one would think he would be honest (given what happened to Aravious). If he admits something, then there will be some type of sanction. If he denied it, but the report is corroborated by other means, then there will be some type of sanction (more severe). If he denies it, and there is no corroboration, then he'll be good to go.

Originally Posted by DapperSlapper

If Chickillo doesn't get suspended or at least have to pay some amount of money, then we'll know it wasn't proven to be true. It's a given that Chickillo was interviewed - one would think he would be honest (given what happened to Aravious). If he admits something, then there will be some type of sanction. If he denied it, but the report is corroborated by other means, then there will be some type of sanction (more severe). If he denies it, and there is no corroboration, then he'll be good to go.

Hold up: if we believe Golden & look at the timetable, then I think its safe to say that the NCAA has known about this allegation all along if it has credability, yes? Everything that happened in 2011 should be covered. This is a retread from CRob--legit or not--that stems from the trial records, not an actual notice of new improprieties.

At least that's how I read it.

Originally Posted by JN Gerhart

Hold up: if we believe Golden & look at the timetable, then I think its safe to say that the NCAA has known about this allegation all along if it has credability, yes? Everything that happened in 2011 should be covered..

Maybe you could provide some links to support that? Based on my unreliable memory Golden said this information isn't new but he didn't say exactly when it came to light. If the NCAA didn't find out about it until late in the season (or later) then by the time they verified the facts the season may have been over. So it is possible punishment could come down at the start of this season.

...although I read something somewhere that claimed Golden told Chick not to expect any punishment.

Originally Posted by Ed La Fave

Maybe you could provide some links to support that? Based on my unreliable memory Golden said this information isn't new but he didn't say exactly when it came to light. If the NCAA didn't find out about it until late in the season (or later) then by the time they verified the facts the season may have been over. So it is possible punishment could come down at the start of this season.

...although I read something somewhere that claimed Golden told Chick not to expect any punishment.

Really, Ed? You expect me to remember something?

All joshing aside, I'm admittedly speculating on this criteria: investigation started well before 2011 season AND early enough for players to be suspended for 2011 season; no incoming players suspended for 2011 season (in fact, none after 2009 class, right?); Golden's categorization of "new information" as having previously been included in investigation. I can't find a link for that, but Golden repeatedly said "we're talking about a guy who hasn't been on our staff for over a year", which--if accurate to Golden's involvement in the investigation--means that the book on Allen's involvement was written & closed before Golden even knew about it.

Also, Golden has said the entire time "I am not involved in this investigation" --hence he knows "as much as you guys". If the Allen accusations were germane to the current investigation he would be a part of it. What is interesting (& perhaps disconcerting) is that if these allegations were in fact new information, then those statements from Golden circa August 2011 lead definitively to the conclusion that Allen's involvement went deeper than they were looking.

So, you're right in a sense: all of that blended info/opinion/theory does not mean in an airtight sense that all the Yahooooooos accusations have been addressed in the ongoing investigation.

* What you may have read RE: Golden & Chik is from Milian,

"….Asked if he expected any of the current UM players – including standout defensive end Anthony Chickillo -- named in the Yahoo story as having accepted impermissible benefits -- to be suspended, Golden responded, 'I do not.'"

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