- 06-21-2012, 09:15 AM #1
Football Playoff"Offense wins games _ _ Defense wins Championships"
- 06-21-2012, 10:01 AM #2
I truly believed this day would never come. I would have loved to have a six team playoff where the top two seeds get a bye but I am more than willing to accept this solution after all the trash we've seen in the past.
I just hope the system doesnt grow large enough to let teams who aren't elite into the playoff. It has become cliche but I really do value the importance of the regular season.
- 06-21-2012, 10:38 AM #3
Completely believe this is an example of allowing the inmates to run the asylum. In a sport with 120+ teams, there is no way a 4-team playoff system makes sense. And the people calling for this system the loadest NEVER played college football. They are fans who want to tie their identity to the status of their favorite football program, and their ego will be fueled by having an "absolute" national championship. They are also media people who have to come up with topics to discuss/debate in our 24/7 "want it all now" news-ertainment culture.
The new system WON'T improve the product on the field. It will generate more money for the entity responsible for oversite and the TV product will be exceptional. But unless the new revenue is used to fund additional athletic scholarships for schools to fully fund non-revenue generating sports, this change is a circle-jerk for guys listening to the vocal minority and an over-opinionated media.
And for anyone arguing how teams at lower levels do it ... Those systems are based on regional rankings and include many more teams. And because the conferences all have geographic connections, the top regional teams are easier to identify. Additionally, those divisions don't get NEAR THE ATTENTION major college football gets. So, while there are teams who get left out at the lower divisions, nobody cares enough to make a big deal out of it.
I never thought there was anything wrong with the previous system. I have yet to see a national champion in the BCS who I didn't think earned it. I was also OK with the split system, as well.
And another point ... Why allow teams who are not eligible for post-season play to impact other teams who are? USC couldn't play for a national title, but they impacted Oregon's ability to play for the title last year. How is that fair? Those circumstances don't apply at any other level.
But for you folks who support it ... Congratulations! But be careful what you wish for. I doubt this change will stay at 4 teams beyond the period of time required to get the logistics established for the new championship game. 8 or 16 teams is in the future ... Just look at the expanison on the NCAA basketball tournament.
That's my rant! And just my opinion ...
Hopefully, UM wins enough to benefit from the new system. Go Canes!
- 06-21-2012, 12:30 PM #4
This is a step in the right direction, but I hope it expands to at least include the winner of each major conference in it, until then this will have to do.
- 06-21-2012, 01:30 PM #5
This is still BS.
Voters in preseason pick the teams in rankings, and as long as they don't completely go sideways, they'll end up in the top four, meaning that if a team was ranked #24 but is really the best team in the nation, during the season, they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of climbing within the top four.
Again, with a crappy four-team playoff, it will always be the preseason favorites whether they're worth a tinker's damn or not.
You get ranked high, you pick an easy schedule, you don't lose but one game, and you're likely in.
How about a 32-team playoff system? At least a 16-team playoff?
The bowls still get the games, but it's hosting some of the playoffs instead of 'bowls.'
So the teams that contend in these four-team playoffs will always be between the Ohio States, the Nebraskas, the Oklahoma's, the Southern Cals, the LSU's, the Alabama's, the Michigan's, the Notre Dames, and the Penn States.
Because rankings are to a large degree - popularity contests.
- 06-21-2012, 01:38 PM #6
FarArcher, I am not able to do the research right now but I believe strongly that it will be very difficult to find an undefeated team from a BCS conference that didn't finish the season in the top four. So while I agree that preseason polls should go away I do not think they will prevent an elite team from making the playoffs.
- 06-21-2012, 01:50 PM #7
ATL, I can't understand your thought process. You say that you were happy with split national championships yet you ridicule a four team playoff for not being inclusive enough for 120 teams (let's be honest at most there are 40 teams worth a damn and a maximum of five or six that can be considered elite)...from my POV the new system is more inclusive than split national championships or the two team playoff we currently have.
How could you think there was nothing wrong with the original system? How many undefeated teams got shafted? Auburn? Boise? Utah? I am sure there are more. If you finish undefeated you deserve a shot to at least compete with the more highly regarded one loss teams.
USC being ban from the post season should in no way prevent them from exposing Oregon. I don't understand your gripe at all.
I hope your wrong about expanding to 16 teams. That would let in too many mediocre teams and would diminish the regular season too much. I agree it is possible but I don't think it is likely. I could see an 8 team playoff and that is something I would be happy with.
- 06-21-2012, 03:08 PM #8
I always thought it should be a 10 team playoff consisting of 6 conference champions. The other 4 spots go to 8 at large teams playing in a wild card game decided by AP poll, this fills the months between the end of the regular season and the BCS bowl games. (playing in the conference championship disqualifies you from these games ) #1 and #2 get a first round bye. It would make for some great games. Also wanted to do something about these weak schedules. Its only a pipe dream...
- 06-21-2012, 06:09 PM #9
no one has brought up yet one key thing. The bcs is pushing for the teams to be picked by a human committee not computers.
- 06-21-2012, 07:21 PM #10
I refuse to argue on this subject because it requires none. Division 1 football is the ONLY level of football without a playoff. How a person finds that to be rational is beside me. Kids start in Pop Warner with a playoff and it's OK. High School OK.Division 2 & 3 OK. NFL OK. I don't get the argument. I assume the NFL is king because it DOESN'T use a computer to decide. I've never had anyone face-to-face try and explain why they like the current system. At any level of ANY sport you have a playoff EXCEPT D-1 college football. I think I just need someone to rationally explain to me how it works on all levels of all sports except D-1 football.