What do you guys think...

**Michael Bradley** · 03-04-2011, 10:56 AM

... about the Oregon news?

I'd be interested to hear everyone's opinion.

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**e.412** · 03-04-2011, 12:08 PM

I can't say that I am surprised, although I don't like the implications.

Nike aside, Oregon is no different from BYU, Utah, Montana or your Idaho Vandals. Eugene is not an inherently sexy place, & while the Ducks have branded themselves better than anyone, there are things that still don't jive with them nabbing an elite stud from Texas. (A caveat for coach G: I did not say they are the best brand, simply that they have branded themselves better than others). Lache had to buy into so much more than the program; NFL pedigree (none. Blount was not a star in the League when LS signed, OU & Texas have lapped the field in that regard); historic tenure (none); playing time (not bad); national prominence (very recently attained, but the Ducks have some of the most exciting offenses of the last several years); childhood influence (Oregon was a minimal player nationally, was not a regional team for him growing up).

It just begs the question: why does Oregon get 4-5* guys here recently while Boise & TCU don't? Maybe they grease a few wheels the other schools don't. It doesn't mean Oregon is cheating, directly, but it's easy to see this connecting a few dots.

**cincycane513** · 03-04-2011, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by e.412

I can't say that I am surprised, although I don't like the implications.

Nike aside, Oregon is no different from BYU, Utah, Montana or your Idaho Vandals. Eugene is not an inherently sexy place, & while the Ducks have branded themselves better than anyone, there are things that still don't jive with them nabbing an elite stud from Texas. (A caveat for coach G: I did not say they are the best brand, simply that they have branded themselves better than others). Lache had to buy into so much more than the program; NFL pedigree (none. Blount was not a star in the League when LS signed, OU & Texas have lapped the field in that regard); historic tenure (none); playing time (not bad); national prominence (very recently attained, but the Ducks have some of the most exciting offenses of the last several years); childhood influence (Oregon was a minimal player nationally, was not a regional team for him growing up).

It just begs the question: why does Oregon get 4-5* guys here recently while Boise & TCU don't? Maybe they grease a few wheels the other schools don't. It doesn't mean Oregon is cheating, directly, but it's easy to see this connecting a few dots.

Lets be honest about the situation Oregon is not a power however they did have a top team in 2001 and many thought they should have played us. So that shows they have made some strides in program building. When your richest grad owns nike image is easy. Lets not make it a dead program its far from it. Lets see what happens.

**benniev** · 03-04-2011, 11:27 PM

Oregon is not a power?

As of late they're by and far more of a power than Miami, Florida State, Nebraska.. You know, former perennial powers. Oregon was an experienced quarterback away from winning a national championship and have been beasts for the last few years.

**STATE_OF_MIAMI** · 03-05-2011, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by benniev

Oregon is not a power?

As of late they're by and far more of a power than Miami, Florida State, Nebraska.. You know, former perennial powers. Oregon was an experienced quarterback away from winning a national championship and have been beasts for the last few years.

I can't wait for them to get the death penalty so we never have to see those atrocious uniforms on TV again.

**thedonald** · 03-05-2011, 07:53 AM

we never have to see those atrocious uniforms on TV again.

Miami's have not fared that much better that Nike has designed even though the Ducks seem to have a different look each week.

**e.412** · 03-05-2011, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by cincycane513

Lets be honest about the situation Oregon is not a power however they did have a top team in 2001 and many thought they should have played us. So that shows they have made some strides in program building. When your richest grad owns nike image is easy. Lets not make it a dead program its far from it. Lets see what happens.

Originally Posted by benniev

Oregon is not a power?

As of late they're by and far more of a power than Miami, Florida State, Nebraska.. You know, former perennial powers. Oregon was an experienced quarterback away from winning a national championship and have been beasts for the last few years.

I'm not stating that Oregon is not a power. I'm asking how they pull the kids they do (Lache, Sumler, Randall), from the areas they do (FL, TX, etc) all of the sudden? Their 06-09 classes averaged just under 1 ESPN top 150 kid per. '10 & '11 had 4 & 5, respectively. It's worth noting, that's all.

I'm not saying the Ducks are guilty of cheating; I'm certainly not contending they're not a national power--they are. I'm just asking questions. Just like the NCAA.

**wakecane** · 03-05-2011, 10:51 AM

From KATU.com comes this info:

PORTLAND, Ore. – The University of Oregon confirmed it was contacted by the NCAA on Friday and is under investigation over its football recruiting practices but it insists it has done nothing wrong.

ESPN and Yahoo sports both reported Thursday that the NCAA is investigating whether top recruits were improperly steered toward Oregon.

The investigation centers on two payments made to recruiting services for a combined $29,000 and how star football recruit Lache Seastrunk from Texas landed in Eugene.

Oregon got into the national championship by becoming a player on the national recruiting stage. Part of that is done by doing what big-time programs do: pay recruiting services to collect information on top high school players. The question in this investigation is whether some recruiters crossed the line and guided the players to Oregon which would violate NCAA rules.

Prized Duck recruit, Seastrunk, grew up in Texas and ESPN and Yahoo sports reported that the University of Oregon paid $25,000 to a Houston-based scouting service run by a man who is said to be a mentor to Seastrunk.

This is seems to be a cover for the Recruiting Services to guide players to programs who will pay monies to them. Do you think this is happening in the SE Conference, with their sordid history in recruiting practices. Sometimes the parents are not aware this is happening - and the monies go only to the reps for these services - as in this particular situation.

**wakecane** · 03-05-2011, 10:58 AM

From KATU.com comes this info:

PORTLAND, Ore. – The University of Oregon confirmed it was contacted by the NCAA on Friday and is under investigation over its football recruiting practices but it insists it has done nothing wrong.

ESPN and Yahoo sports both reported Thursday that the NCAA is investigating whether top recruits were improperly steered toward Oregon.

The investigation centers on two payments made to recruiting services for a combined $29,000 and how star football recruit Lache Seastrunk from Texas landed in Eugene.

Oregon got into the national championship by becoming a player on the national recruiting stage. Part of that is done by doing what big-time programs do: pay recruiting services to collect information on top high school players. The question in this investigation is whether some recruiters crossed the line and guided the players to Oregon which would violate NCAA rules.

Prized Duck recruit, Seastrunk, grew up in Texas and ESPN and Yahoo sports reported that the University of Oregon paid $25,000 to a Houston-based scouting service run by a man who is said to be a mentor to Seastrunk.

I think this is seems to be a cover for the Recruiting Services to guide players to programs who will pay monies to them. Do you think this is happening in the SE Conference, with their sordid history in recruiting practices. Sometimes the parents are not aware this is happening - and the monies go only to the reps for these services - as might have happened in this particular situation - according to the full report.